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Framework for Nursing in General Practice

Practice Nurse National Focus Groups

   
 

Q&A

Q1. What do you think patients will expect from practice nursing in the future?

  • Skilled, knowledgeable consultations
  • Prescriptions from consultation
  • Quicker access
  • Availability of information, contacts - accessibility
  • Easier access
  • First contact for patients
  • Quality standards of care
  • 1st contact for primary care
  • Better access
  • Minor illness

Q2. What do you think GP's will expect from Practice Nursing in the future?

  • Greater autonomy
  • Bigger workload!
  • More qualified PN's
  • Diagnostic and prescribing
  • Getting concerned - Threatened by stronger voice of practice nurse
  • Make assumptions without the knowledge
  • Role shaped by GP employer's commitments & also what we are prepared to negotiate
  • Chronic disease management
  • History taking skills
  • Increased role gives us bigger voice
  • The "generic" nurse
  • Training in various fields
  • Role shaped by policies
  • Chronic care managers
  • Role in minor illness and prescribing
  • Large input in team as a whole

Q3. What is your vision of Practice Nursing in the future?

  • Qualified autonomous practitioners, with a defined body for all PN's, recognised and salaried accordingly
  • Nurse partners
  • Crisis not enough being trained and more expected
  • Retirement - huge gap in future
  • Vicarious liability clearly understood - spelled out
  • Need to stipulate professional membership - MDU
  • Partnership
  • Crises - lack of suitably trained RGN's
  • ?future of liability -
  • Clarification of vicarious liability
  • Stipulation of membership of professional body
  • Partners in general practice
  • More nurse-led clinics

Q4. What are your good areas of practice? "in this area"

  • Communication/practical skills
  • Intelligence
  • Keen to develop professionally and personally and pro-active in both these areas
  • Ability to keep up to date
  • IT skills
  • Target diabetes care - nominated GP nurse
  • All PN encouraged in area to nurse prescribe but money due to run out
  • Multi-disciplinary anaphylaxis training
  • Integrated nurse team - aim for consensus
  • CN's have more slack and become involved in CDM - practice funded
  • Good understanding of each other roles and who to refer to
  • Work out same office
  • Regular nursing meetings
  • Patient group for District, Reps for all practices, very knowledgeable - voice goes to MSP's
  • LHCC - diabetes care
  • Resuscitation training
  • Diabetic care

Q5. What are the barriers to development?

  • Time - protected
  • Funding of learning opportunities
  • Communication of available facilities/courses
  • GPs!
  • Space!
  • Team work - employment status
  • CN have a very different perspective on general practice
  • Employment status GP - not Health Board

Q6. What needs to change?

  • Recognition of PN's as a professional independent group
  • Financial recognition according to skills
  • A defined PN role
  • Recognition of clinical abilities - responsibility of individual clinics/consultations
  • Willing to support each other and learn - multi-disciplinary team
  • Communication
  • Community nurses need to be seen to be keen to be involved
  • Sharing/willing responsibility
  • One standard for teamwork - say that whoever back backfills from nursing needs to be competent
  • GPs perceptions
  • Public perceptions of role
  • Education of patients
  • Training - pushed to do it - not recognised/recorded once its done
  • Need time to do training
  • More multi-disciplinary training
  • Work based learning accreditation - standards
  • Tackle higher education in terms of targeted to needs
  • Terms and conditions (speak to Dorothy at Caledonian University)
  • Educating GPs
  • Raise awareness ie - educational needs - particularly registrars - potential GP
  • Educate patients
  • Stop encouraging culture of patient dependency
  • Responsibility of informing patients
  • Consistency among HCP's in advice given to GP
  • Patient involvement
  • Mentorship and payment
  • GP's perception of Practice Nurse role
  • Clinical supervision/Personal development plans to reflect individual needs as well as practice needs
  • Patients' perceptions
  • Training and education - availability of places/suitable training? in the workplace
  • Financial rewards
  • Time for training
  • More multidisciplinary training
  • Terms and conditions

Q.7 What skills do existing practitioners need to respond patients needs, now and in the future?

  • Qualifications
  • Awareness of self-limitations
  • Communication
  • Local/Health Board knowledge
  • Depends on people's experience
  • Patients have to understand that what is delivered now may change in the future
  • Skills to be able to run projects
  • Education of patients rechanges in NHS
  • IT skills
  • Listening skills
  • Knowledge of the "bigger" picture
  • Changes to HB's - re shaping of service provision - how this affects local CHP's - and how patients will be affected

Q8. Are practice nurses at specialist practitioner level adequately prepared with the right competencies to meet service requirements?

  • Not appropriate for new practice nurse staff
  • Prepares academically
  • Understand how to source information & critic literature
  • Critic literature
  • Understand
  • Got to be more than a 3 year course
  • Look at integrating more academic skills
  • Perhaps more recent P/N's probably have a broader academic background than long-standing P/N
  • Push for evidence based practice

Q9. How can we increase exposure of student nurse to Practice Nursing?

  • Direct contact with colleges - awareness of particular interests/skills of those
  • Some spend time with practice nursing already
  • Could be incorporated more in basic education
  • Expertise in placements depending on resources available
  • Need opportunity to get out and see placements are useful
  • DN and HV take GP register balance is for PN to take students
  • More full-time posts may attract potential people less developed in career from career point of view
  • Standardisation of grading issues
  • Recognised career pathway
  • Agenda change - PNs need to be included
  • Support to get the GPs to recognise that PN's need to network
  • May need to have something structured like accelerated learning time - GPs will release staff
  • Having learning needs recognised
  • Who's doing appraisal - is there a way of doing it

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